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laden was not based on the facts. why do you think we mentioned the senior senators and john mccain who knows a thing or two about this are bent out of shape about the movie? >> well, i think they are politicians, just about all of them, and they know that you can state and state and restate facts. in fact, facts have little purchase when it comes to the powerful images of a well made motion picture. and, you know, i think one of the questions to ask here is why would this very good filmmaker, who apparently did a lot of research on the actual facts of the story and the fact of the stories as you said in your setup are quite well known, why should she decide to begin the film this way when it's against what we know about the history of the hunt for bin laden? and i think we get there to a key point about torture, which is that it's dramatically compelling. it captures the imagination. you know, "24," the television series, "dirty harry" with clint eastwood, you can cite other instances in which torture has played a critical role because it's inherently dramatic. and it takens a kind of
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